tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3299108886803608881.post8277803793940170175..comments2024-03-28T17:34:21.418-07:00Comments on The South Fraser Blog: Bus Rapid Transit on King George and SkyTrain to Langley?Nathan Pachalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17647693133663879821noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3299108886803608881.post-20038717480633048572013-03-14T22:52:23.756-07:002013-03-14T22:52:23.756-07:00I can't imagine BRT not being able to capture ...I can't imagine BRT not being able to capture most of the benefits of LRT if it's done to the same quality. It should be noted however that we have never really really built a non watered down BRT line before in metro vancouver. All of our lines have run in mixed traffic without some way of maintaining consistent headway.<br /><br />Even if you consider the non-transportation aspects of LRT, you can probably replicate most of it with higher quality trolley-buses.<br /><br />I guess it probably won't really matter though as long as the MOT's priorities trump translink's growth funding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3299108886803608881.post-42024062739947396982013-03-06T19:49:53.762-08:002013-03-06T19:49:53.762-08:00LRT's ability to "shape" demand into...LRT's ability to "shape" demand into some sort of a more desirable form is vastly overstated. Jarrett Walker of humantransit.org in particular has been very critical of the notion of building transit in the hopes that it will attract more desirable development, especially at the expense of providing the best option for moving people, which is transit's priority. The inability of transit to provide competitive trips in other cities has often sapped political will to expand and improve systems.<br /><br />A municipality's policy has a far greater degree of influence on new development and thus far, outside of the Metro Centre, Surrey has been struggling to densify along King George and 104th. Whereas it can be noted that the Northeast municipalities have had a great deal of success in densifying in preparation for the coming of the Evergreen Line, even when it was considerably up in the air.<br /><br />Vancouver is also proceeding with it's Cambie Street plan, a plan to develop a more linear, corridor pattern of the type normally associated with LRT following the Skytrain. That may not be possible with a Fraser Highway Skytrain extension but if successful, it will change the paradigm. Rapid transit can and does shape development, but it's far less influenced by the choice of technology than is given credence by many people.Jack Hopenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3299108886803608881.post-52628448353479207432013-03-06T09:43:31.231-08:002013-03-06T09:43:31.231-08:00In comparison to Alt. 4, Alt. 3 is pretty bad. Onl...In comparison to Alt. 4, Alt. 3 is pretty bad. Only 12k new trips for almost the same cost as 24k new trips? Please. As a bonus, Alt 4 has no transfer at Newton for White Rock travelers and has connections with the existing buses on Trans Canada.<br /><br />That said, they could build it rail-ready. If the demand comes up by 2041, they could upgrade the needed line to include higher-capacity rail cars in addition to buses.<br /><br />Washington, DC, is planning just such a hybrid system through its downtown, and Seattle's downtown bus tunnel already does that. No reason it couldn't work through South Fraser.David Edmondsonhttp://vibrantbayarea.orgnoreply@blogger.com